As a proposal for the project with the kids, I am thinking, to do something with painting. Because my practice as an artist starts with painting, this is my base. I think one thing that is important, is enjoying painting and have fun. As a start I would like to ask the kids to make the most ugliest painting they can ever imagine. Nothing really matters, normally you want to chase beauty in art, I think it can be interesting to turn this upside down. I am very curious in what the outcomes will be, the kids by making something ugly, the should consider beauty as well. Next step would be to ask them to make the most beautiful painting they can imagine. In the end we have two results to compare, and to talk about. I am sure that the 'ugly' paintings will be the most interesting ones.